Application for a variation of a premises licence for The Brickyard, 222 South Street, Romford, RM1 2AD.
Minutes:
PREMISES
The Brickyard
222 South Street,
Romford,
RM1 2AD
DETAILS OF APPLICATION
Application for a variation of a premises licence under section 34 of the Licensing Act 2003 (“the Act”).
APPLICANT
JRL & Co
222 South Street,
Romford,
RM1 2AD
1. Details of the application
The premises is a detached building with a ground floor and basement level.
Supply of Alcohol to frontage area of premises |
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Day |
Start |
Finish |
Sunday to Wednesday |
11:00hrs |
22:00hrs |
Thursday to Saturday |
11:00hrs |
23:00hrs |
Also the applicant is requesting for duplicate conditions on its licence to be to be removed, replaced or changed as detailed on the application.
Seasonal variations & Non-standard timings
No seasonal variation or non standard timing was applied for in this application.
2. Promotion of the Licensing Objectives
The applicant completed the operating schedule, which formed part of the application to promote the four licensing objectives.
The applicant complied with premises licence regulations 25 and 26 relating to the advertising of the application. The required newspaper advertisement was installed in the Romford Recorder on Friday 16 March 2012. Public notices were displayed on the premises.
3. Details of Representations
Valid representations may only address the four licensing objectives
There were two representations from Responsible Authorities, the Metropolitan Police and the Environmental Health Department and eight valid representations against this application from interested parties. Some of the representations were signed by more than one person.
Responsible Authorities
Metropolitan Police: - had made a representation against the application on the ground of public nuisance and crime and disorder but for the hours requested only.
PC Fern addressed the subcommittee orally reiterating his written representations stating that the granting of a license for the terrace to remain open until 23:00 hours, Thursday through to Sunday would impact on the licensing objective of prevention of public Nuisance, which in turn often leads to disorder.
He explained that this can be from disgruntled neighbours who often called the police to deal with nuisance issues. The local authority can not guarantee the complainant’s concerns are addressed outside office hours. This in turn often leads to further calls to the police or disorder at the location.
Nuisance could be caused by no more then large groups’ gathering causing disturbance through loud talking, laughing, cheery goodbyes, the prevention of noise nuisance is essential to the quality of life to residents and a human right.
The licensing act is designed around prevention of crime and disorder and public nuisance, allowing this terrace area to be open to be open until 2300 hours would not promote that.
The subcommittee was informed that the police had been in consultation with the applicant and if the Sub Committee were minded to grant the application the following conditions have been agreed, along with duplicated conditions to be removed.
ANNEX 2
Reference to under 21 years old to be removed see new conditions.
The following are duplicate conditions:
CCTV to be operation - remove this is covered in Annex 3
First aid facilities to be on site - removed see Annex 3
An incident book - covered in annex 3.
ANNEX 3
There shall be no outside consumption of alcohol removed.
The Police representation also noted the following proposed conditions by the applicant:
taking a table meal there and for consumption by such a person as ancillary to their meal.
Public Health: - Mr Gasson, the Havering Noise Specialist officer, appeared and reiterated his written objection against the application to vary the premises licence. He stated his objection unless the use of the external seating area be restricted to the following times:
11:00 to 21:00 hours – Monday – Sunday inclusive
The subcommittee was informed that in his professional judgement the suggested hours were to protect the amenity of nearby residents.
London Fire & Emergency Planning Authority (“LFEPA”): None.
Planning Control & Enforcement: None.
Children & Families Service: None
Trading Standards Service: None
The Magistrates Court: None
Mr Donald Lane, an objector addressed the subcommittee stating that his objection was based on the ground of noise nuisance, that local residents and children would suffer if this application is granted. He outlined that the premises was situated in an area with properties with children, he explained that their sleep pattern would be affected with consequences to their attainment and behaviour in school. Mr Lane added that this was a residential area where most properties were family houses with gardens. That the increase in traffic would cause public nuisance from the noise of people entering and leaving the premises. Mr Lane was of the view that outdoor consumption of alcohol and food was inappropriate and would be detrimental to his and others residential environment.
Councillor Andrew Curtin addressed the subcommittee detailing his objection to the application. He stated that when an operating licence was granted to this premises in November 2009, it was agreed that there would be no outside consumption of alcohol. That the subcommittee resolved to make the decision because of the mixed character of the area with a number of residents who had children, the elderly and vulnerable. That consumption of alcohol outside this premise would lead to late night noise nuisance and general disturbance that would lead to public nuisance and place children at risk of harm.
Councillor Curtin was of the opinion that the character of the area has not changed since the decision to restrict the outside and as such suggested to the subcommittee to maintain the exclusion of the outside area.
4. Applicant’s response.
Mr Alan Aylott on behalf of the applicant responded to representations from Responsible Authorities and interested parties. He enquired of the Noise Specialist officer why he suggested 21:00 hours as an acceptable time. In reply Mr Gasson stated it was a professional judgement because the premises was situated in an area where families with children resided. He asked whether there had been any complaints from neighbours to which Mr Gasson replied that there had been.
Mr Aylott was also granted permission to question PC Fern and asked whether there had been any disorder associated with the premises. PC Fern confirmed that about 1 year before there had been an incident but that this had not been the applicant’s fault. PC Fern was concerned for the potential for disorder if the application was granted and that 11pm did seem late.
Mr Aylott enquired of Mr Lane who he had made complaint to in previous instances of noise disturbance from the premise. In reply Mr Lane responded that he had complained to his ward councillor.
Mr Aylott made the following representations on behalf of the applicant to the subcommittee:
Sunday to Thursday at 20:00 hours
Friday to Saturday at 21:00 hours
Mr Gasson responded to the applicant’s representative’s offer to have a mesh fence constructed to minimise light pollution and noise. He informed the sub committee that in his opinion the mesh fencing will not absorb the sound as proposed, as only solid material could achieve this. He added that he had visited the venue and observed when functions were on going and was of the view that noise emanated from the entrances to the main dining area and in order to address this it would need a lobbied entrance.
The applicant himself gave evidence confirming:
4. Determination of Application
Decision
Following the hearing held on 1 May 2012, the Sub-Committee’s decision regarding the application to vary a Premises Licence for The Brickyard, 222 South Street, Romford was as set out below, for the reasons shown:
The Sub-Committee was obliged to determine this application with a view to promoting the licensing objectives, which are:
· The prevention of crime and disorder
· Public safety
· The prevention of public nuisance
· The protection of children from harm
In making its decision, the Sub-Committee also had regard to the Guidance issued under Section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003 and Havering’s Licensing Policy.
In addition, the Sub-Committee took account of its obligations under s17 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998, and Articles 1 and 8 of the First Protocol of the Human Rights Act 1998.
Facts/Issues
Whether the granting of the premises licence would undermine the four licensing objectives.
· The prevention of public nuisance
· The prevention of crime and disorder
The police had submitted that the granting a licence to the terrace to remain open until 23:00 hours, Thursday through to Sunday would impact on the licensing objective of prevention of public Nuisance, which in turn often leads to disorder for the reasons set out above.
The Havering Noise Specialist officer, offered in his representation that the fencing proposed will not be effective to dampen noise and light pollution from the premises. He suggested a compromise operating hours up to 9pm for the outside terrace in order to protect the amenity of nearby residents.
The Sub-Committee accepted that there was a potential for the amenity of local residents to be materially affected by the use of the outside of the premises late at night, however, that this could be avoided by imposition of conditions including limiting the hours of operation to 9pm Sunday to Thursday and 10pm on Friday and Saturdays. This was a reasonable time for young families who were likely to have school during the week.
Otherwise the applicant had offered sufficient conditions to satisfactorily address the issues raised by the Metropolitan Police and Noise Specialist.
The Sub Committee therefore determined to grant the application to vary the premises licence for the supply of alcohol to the frontage of the premises as follows:
Supply of Alcohol to frontage area of premises |
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Day |
Start |
Finish |
Sunday to Thursday |
11:00hrs |
21:00hrs |
Friday to Saturday |
11:00hrs |
22:00hrs |
subject to the conditions set out below:
taking a table meal there and for consumption by such a person as ancillary to their meal.
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